bots on websites, on apps on forums, has anyone found a real solution to getting rid of bots? and bot accounts? if so id love to know any solutions

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    1 day ago

    If anonymous and available to everyone, what would prevent people from acquiring an ID and passing it on to a bot, or from acquiring multiples?

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      13 hours ago

      That’s probably why the EU is doing the remote attestation thing. You can have software freedom but with bots or you can have no bots but with software bondage.

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      22 hours ago

      The government would keep track of whether or not they issued you an ID, so that you can’t acquire multiple. You’ll probably be responsible for not losing it, or maybe there’s ways to revoke lost ones without compromising the privacy of it.

      As for humans passing their token to a bot, that’s not really solvable by any system. There is always a possibility that a human is just talking to a bot and then typing out the post themselves. But the human is still the one with the authority, and chooses to delegate to the bot.

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        20 hours ago

        As for humans passing their token to a bot, that’s not really solvable by any system.

        Indeed. Which is (part of) why I wrote, “pick two”.

        But the human is still the one with the authority, and chooses to delegate to the bot.

        Which is what we already have today.

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          16 hours ago

          Your original “pick two” comment implies that you can pick “anonymous” + “free of bots”, or “available to everybody” + “free of bots”. I can’t think of any system that would satisfy those.

          Which is what we already have today.

          What we have today is only “available to everybody”. The token/ID system adds anonymity

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      Rate-limiting ID acquiring and having them to be short-lived deals with malicious parties. Having for example a token that proofs that you’re a legitimate person for 1 day, but your identity is tied to it for the duration means that you can only abuse the system only so for so long. For longer periods e.g. a month, half a year, you can provide pseudoanonymity, and it poses bigger issues with privacy, but a person who is willing to be subjected to be identified for a certain period of time gains certain privileges.

      Sounds very dystopian though, but not having ID won’t stop the tech giants from profiling you anyways.

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        20 hours ago

        but your identity is tied to it for the duration

        This doesn’t disprove what I wrote, as it’s not anonymous.

        you can provide pseudoanonymity,

        Pseudoanonymity is not anonymity, regardless of how any given person chooses to define that nebulous term.

        My “pick two” stands.

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        but your identity is tied to it for the duration

        Then it’s not anonymous.