• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    2 days ago

    I’d pay the fine if that’s what it came down to.

    This isn’t the token fine for not voting. It’s $364 per day.

    • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      But if it’s anonymous how do they know you didn’t do it?

      Besides, I have genuinely not received or seen any official information about when the census is or how to do it - i only know it happened (is happening?) from people i know talking about having done it. How i was even meant to be informed?

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        1 day ago

        But if it’s anonymous how do they know you didn’t do it?

        That’s why they ask for your name and address at the start - it’s to verify that you have completed the census. Thar section is not tied to the actual census questions that come afterwards.

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        1 day ago

        You’re meant to have received your code, along with other details, in the mail.

        It’s tied to your address. Every address with at least one person staying in it on census night has to fill out a form.

        • Pappabosley@lemmy.world
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          1 day ago

          Hmm, interesting, maybe I’ve been blacklisted. Though most of my family have ADHD, so more likely one of them brought in the mail and put it “somewhere safe”

    • im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
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      2 days ago

      That’s true but the risk of being fined is infinitesimal.

      Very few people are fined each time, less than 100 australia wide:

      https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/no-one-yet-prosecuted-over-2016-census-boycott/8315898

      The fine is $364 per day up to a maximum of 10 days for refusing to follow the direction of a statistician.

      So if you don’t complete the form, their policy is to contact you in person and ask, then give you a direction to complete the form. If you refuse to follow that direction they may refer you to court but that’s not necessarily the case.

      They also have a policy of only referring people when their refusal harms the quality of the census. That pretty much means they’re only going to fine conscientious objectors, and assholes.

      In my own case, I did not refuse to complete the form. I completed the form incorrectly. The potential fine is $3,640 or something. I would be interested to see a case in which they could apply that. Without an admission of guilt it would be difficult to prosecute and ultimately yield no benefit.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        1 day ago

        I completed the form incorrectly.

        On purpose? That’s so much worse than just not filling it at all. That’s a total arsehole move.

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          1 day ago

          LOL. No it’s not.

          Basic statistical analysis requires data to be normalised.

          It’s trivial to account for non-responses like mine.