‘Algorithms lack the spark of humanity’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VCWgoIrRCo&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20261005-anthropic-could-ai-be-conscious-pope-leo-lol-no - podcast
time: 7 min 58 sec
oh boy this is gonna be a thread
hey fellow atheists, can you please make me not embarrassed to be an atheist for one day in my life
Yes please.
I as an atheist can absolutely respect that this man has wide influence, have agreed with many things he has said and done, and appreciate that he doesn’t appear to be an idiot.
Nobody who believes that LLMs cannot be conscious will ever believe that they can be conscious. And they will say things like the writer of this piece who says ‘we know how they work.’ We don’t, actually. We know how to reliably manufacture them. Anybody can do this - enthusiasts do it on their own desktops. But what is happening that creates their emergent behaviors is a black box that we cannot see inside. We also don’t know what consciousness is and we don’t know what has it and what doesn’t other than that which our “feelies” dictate. Unfortunately, these two factoids do not appear to give humanity any degree of pause when it comes to this conversation.
Dog, the statistical engine won’t fuck you, no matter how hard you try to lick its boots. Go outside and touch some grass, maybe interact with real people again.
While I believe we could one day reach some form of AI, it ain’t going to be from LLMs.
That’s my take as well.
I think this Anthropic fellow is too much of a psychopath to understand that there’s other reasons to ponder the question of consciousness, than to try to upsell a chatbot as a slave, and so he can’t understand that it would actually be very bad for him if a bunch of normies were told, with full weight of divine authority, that these things are conscious. I mean, maybe not civil war level bad, but worse than PETA on your ass level bad for sure.
And that is to me very disturbing. He can’t even imagine that a reaction to “this is a slave” could be anything other than “shut up and take my money”.
I was raised Catholic, but am an atheist now. Yet I gotta say I have a LOT of respect for this guy - for someone who’s the leader of the most famous branch of Christianity (so far as I know), he seems very surprisingly down-to-earth. I hope he’s able to move the rest of the flock in that direction as well.
I grew up in NJ as a non-Catholic. Even I respect Pope Leo and Francis.
Granted, I moved to the Midwest and realized for all the quirks Catholics have, they’re not as a monolith god awful people like Evangicals are.
The reason you have a lot of respect for him, is because he’s basically acting as atheist as you can while still being the pope for the church.
That’s great for atheists like us, but it makes him a terrible pope.
I’m curious why you say it makes him a terrible Pope. A lot of Catholics thinks he is great too. Some don’t. It’s all subjective really isn’t it?
The Cardinals elect the Pope they want to set the direction of the Church. So, by definition he’s the best Pope.
Well it’s kind of like this. Imagine you hate watching football, right? But then you watched a football game and you loved it.
If someone who hates football loves a football game, then it’s not a good game. It would have to be too fundamentally different from what people enjoy in football games to be a good football game.
So if atheists are crazy about a pope who is a religious figure, then, it’s not a good pope, you know?
I love the Pope, but let’s face it, he’s just adhering to atheist values as much as possible while being the pope.
That’s great for us, but it’s not great for people who are not atheists, get it?
This might be dumbest shit ive read all week
You think the fucking pope is “adhering to atheist values”? What an interesting place the inside of your head must be.
You want to try that one again with your grown up pants on?
You wanna shut the fuck up and fuck the fuck off?
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atheists and christians are like electrons and positrons. whenever they collide (such as in a football game) they instantly destroy one another
Even people that believe in a mythical creature in the sky aren’t dumb enough to believe AI is conscious
The ones who are more leader than sheep, maybe. The rest? Absolutely most of them will believe whatever they’re told by those seemingly in authority to them. They’ve been trained to be good little mindless minions since early childhood.
the exvangelical atheists are really annoying, you know.
Seems to me anyone with an opinion is annoying to someone else. And we all know how opinions are like assholes.
indeed. though the self-congratulatory types, who – after having shat themselves from the joy of shedding one of the cognitive biases – decide to divide people between leaders and sheeps, always counting themselves into the first group, have not only an opinion like an arsehole, they are also enough of arses to have both cheeks.
Well demonstrated.
Oh, go away.
I’m guessing that the Holy Pedo would say that even about Lt. Commander Data (not to imply that Data should be compared to the LLMs that we currently have).
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