• CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 days ago

    I wish I had this image when people were asking me to qualify, as a cis/hetero male, my attendance at a Pride event.

    I went to four Pride events in June. One each weekend. Had a great time at each of them.

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        15 days ago

        Thanks. I never thought Pride was “for me” because the Pride flag didn’t represent me (as in, I am neither Lesbian, nor Gay, nor Bisexual, nor Transgender, nor Queer). I now feel that the Pride flag represents all of us (including cis/het) and means that a rainbow is beautiful because it encompasses all the colours. This may not be what everyone sees in the flag (I know each colour has its own meaning), but that is my takeaway and it’s why I’m proud to see the rainbow flag fly.

        I’m so glad I went, though. I saw a shirt that really changed my perspective on it. It said that the first Pride was a riot. That’s actually true, the Stonewall riots in 1969 is really what started all of it. Like any civil rights movement, those whose rights are being fought for have experienced violence and have had to face real risk and danger to their person, property, and livelihood in order to get the rights they have now, and in order to continue to fight for their rights. That is why I think it’s important for people who are “outside of LGBTQ+” to stand with those who are in it, like the sign says, because they deserve to feel safe. But I cannot fully discount the points of view that say “if you have nothing to lose you have no business pretending you do.” Except I don’t pretend. I’m there for my cousin and my nephew and my middle school best friend who are all trans. For my mom and stepmom who are gay (lesbian, and have been married 30+ years). For all their wonderful friends and partners and others I’ve met who were queer/questioning, maybe they decided they were cis and/or het after all, or maybe they experimented; either way they all deserve to feel as safe as those of us who are cis/het. Same with Black/white.

        I believe we should not judge people for how they’re made, but for how they treat others. That’s the rainbow I’m proud of. Or as Roddenberry put it, IDIC — Infinite Diversity [in] Infinite Combinations. This is the philosophy of the Vulcans in Star Trek, but I think it’s based on Darwin’s quote about “endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful” in his theory of evolution. Oh — here’s the full quote: “There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” What that says to me is that LGBTQ+ is a natural human evolution and that all of these diversities and forms are wonderful and contribute to the human experience.

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          15 days ago

          Shut up, you actually made me cry with this you’re so sweet. but don’t actually shut up of course this is beautiful

          Thank you for being an ally. Just as straight cis people can be allies, gays are allies to lesbians, lesbians allies to bisexuals, etc. We’re all in this together and by fighting for each other’s rights, we’re fighting for our own.

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      15 days ago

      People were asking you to qualify? That sounds strange to me.

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        15 days ago

        I’ve been questioned if I belong due to being bisexual. There are exclusive jerks in the LGBT+ community as well, but luckily they’re usually few and far between.

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          15 days ago

          As I bisexual I often feel like that too. Never encountered any straight-up (pun not intended) rejection, but always felt kinda weird looks from both cis and LGBT+ people when the topic comes up. Seems like I’m left out regardless of where I am. :/

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            15 days ago

            The Stonewall Riot was started by a bisexual woman. We make up the largest percentage of the LGBT+ community. You belong 💕

            Sometimes monosexual types have a hard time wrapping their head around bisexuals and our attractions. And some people reject what they don’t understand. That’s their journey to figure out and has no reflection on you!

            Happy Pride!

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              15 days ago

              As a fellow bisexual in a passing relationship who experiences a ton of erasure, this convo thread is making my heart so happy🥰

              Also, so happy to see velma out in the wild, so to speak! Your compliment on my skirt was so supportive and inspired me to make a new one this weekend. Meeting a friend I haven’t seen in a long time at the craft store in a few hours for supply purposes, thanks again for the support!

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                15 days ago

                Oh yay!! I have been in hetero passing relationships for a large portion of my life. It can really fuck with one’s head about belonging and visibility! But being attracted to genders different than mine is truly a defining characteristic of bisexuality and it’s easier to embrace that now.

                What a fun project for this weekend!! Your skirt is really cute and I hope you share the new one, too :) 'Tis skirt season after all!

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              15 days ago

              As a monosexual (this term is so funny lmao) i can’t wrap my head around the fact that people can’t understand bisexual people, like, it’s just a taste man, it’s like saying that it’s strange to like more than 1 type of dessert

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                15 days ago

                As a monosexual (this term is so funny lmao)

                I saw it once, probably from Dan Savage, and immediately picked it up. Such an easier way to describe straights, gays, and lesbians (I’m probably missing an orientation in there, sorry in advance!) all in one go!

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      15 days ago

      That’s weird as heck brother and maybe they dealt with motherfuckers/undercover assholes a while back so they’re playing extra safe.

      The decade I’ve been at pride parades, it’s like any other parade. Just have fun. Hell people were even dressing up their dogs in rainbow outfits. Nobody was checking with anything unless you were there to cause trouble

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      15 days ago

      I used to love the gay parties at a night club in my city. I’m a guy and I would be approached very aggressively by women there. I was never approached by a guy. Life’s misteries…

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            15 days ago

            When a queer space becomes more popular for straight people, the culture changes. Straight people outnumber gay people quite a bit. So when a place becomes popular it can quickly change from being a queer space to being just another bar or dance club, etc.

            It’s tough because I know that queer spaces are usually very welcoming and inclusive. And I personally don’t mind straight people enjoying the safety these spaces provide here and there. My own straight partner will sometimes come with me to the local gay bar for example. But it can be difficult to balance.

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              15 days ago

              Who said it was a queer space? It was a nightclub that occasionally made a gay themed party, open and welcoming for everyone. And nobody ever complained about that. Nobody was taking anything from anyone, geez…