https://xkcd.com/2912

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𝓘 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓴 𝓬𝓪𝓹𝓲𝓽𝓪𝓵 𝓛 𝓲𝓼 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓫𝓪𝓫𝓵𝔂 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓯𝓾𝓷 𝓽𝓸 𝔀𝓻𝓲𝓽𝓮, 𝓽𝓱𝓸𝓾𝓰𝓱 𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻𝓬𝓪𝓼𝓮 𝓺 𝓲𝓼 𝓪𝓵𝓼𝓸 𝓪 𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓷𝓰 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓮𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻.

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    I ended up kind of creating my own cursive “font” because I thought several of the choices for letter shapes were, in graphological parlance, “Just completely fucking retarded.” Like the lowercase S being a slightly pointy loop. I devised my own capital T as well, and jettisoned that Q that looks like a 2.

    I wrote in completely illegible cursive until about halfway through college when I started using a laptop for all assignments. On a decent keyboard I can peak at 104 wpm. On the very rare occasion I do have to pick up a pen and write with it anymore, I’m usually jotting down measurements or something, or slopping out some squiggles that will just have to suffice as my signature.

    I don’t see teaching cursive to children as a particularly valuable usage of time, at this point it might be worth teaching them to read it, but proficiency in writing it is not valuable.

    • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Hard disagree. I am an ecologist and paper notes are very common just for reasons of practicality, taking notes on a tablet or field computer can be really difficult with glare, managing power, overheating, rain. The faster and more legibley you can write, the better you’ll be on the job. I doubt that ecology is the only field where this is true. Not everyone has a dang office job.

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      2 years ago

      I hate that they still teach it in schools. It means that for about 3-4 years per child, you get birthday and Christmas cards and you can’t read them.

      It’s not noticeably faster and it’s certainly not neater. Just let it die.

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        2 years ago

        Also writing speed doesn’t really matter anymore. Most situations where writing speed used to matter now needs typing speed instead.

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          2 years ago

          I don’t buy this. I take notes on paper all the time, what am I going to have my laptop or phone in my face during every conversation?

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            2 years ago

            What are you doing that having a pen and paper is normal but your phone or laptop isn’t?

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              2 years ago

              I work in habitat restoration. I spend a lot of time outdoors, but most of my notes are just from my normal meetings. If I’m on my phone taking notes, I have to stare down at my phone and it takes me out of the meeting. I have ADHD and find my phone very distracting. But I can write quick notes on paper without having my head down.

              I also just prefer physical notes. I have tried everything under the sun with digital note-taking, but nothing beats the flexibility and reliability of pen and paper. I have a great binder-based note-organization system.

              I am honestly shocked that so many people NEVER use pen and paper notes? It is very normal in my field.

              • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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                2 years ago

                Congratulations on finding a single exemption to the rule.

                The rest of us are living in 2024

                • whoreticulture@lemmy.world
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                  2 years ago

                  Not really, a lot of people work outdoors in some way. It’s not as unusual as you think, you are just in your own bubble lol

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                  2 years ago

                  Your tone is condescending as fuck, so I don’t know why I’m bothering to reply because you’ll undoubtedly just shoot insults at me too, but… I live in 2024. I work in tech, too. I almost exclusively use paper as a note taking, problem solving, and brainstorming tool. Digital tools simply don’t compare in my eye. There is an inherent freedom of immediate expression and a special mental retention value that comes with pen on paper that I have tried and failed to sufficiently replicate on a computer despite attempts of great effort. I’d definitely prefer if I could instantly backup and organize and search and sync without a scan+tag process, but it’s all inferior to me. The most capable people I work with also have a shockingly common tendency (>65%) to share this preference, too. I envy the others’ ability to work purely digitally, but do notice how they spend substantially more time and effort in “administrative overhead” with their digital knowledgebases in comparison to my analog squishy world, to just end up producing similar overall output.

              • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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                2 years ago

                I have a colleague that insists on using pen and paper. He has draws and draws full of random scraps of paper which apparently have important things on them.

                He’s even gone out and got expensive paper which is apparently made from stones? and is there for waterproof, It does appear to be waterproof but I’m not convinced it’s made out of stone. He has a phone and a Laptop, and an iPad Pro with a stylus, and he refuses to use any of them.