No one knows what fhe fuck you’re trying to say, dude. I made, like, six different points about the Democrats and the 2024 election and you replied with, “what about the entirety of American history?” What about it? WTF is your point?
Democrats put candidates in primaries and people votes for them, that’s my point. Just because you don’t like doesn’t mean Americans as a group don’t. Even if they disagree on a single issue.
Oh, OK, so then this is also something you’re wrong about, because that’s not how the process has worked for 240 years. The Democratic party itself has existed for less than 200 years, it’s modern form as a (ostensibly) left-leaninf, pro-labor party has existed for less than 100 years, and the modern primary process, where the voters actually select a candidate, has only existed since 1972. Before that, party delegates would just pick a candidate in a backroom meeting and voters would be stuck with it. People were incredibly unhappy with that system, which is why it was reformed in 1072 with binding primaries. The Democrats tried to limit voter influence in the 80s by adding Superdelegates, but after the outsized roll they played the disastrous 2016 election, they were reformed in 2018. Some of those reforms were rolled back in 2024 so they could anoint Harris.
Also, a large majority of Democratic voters did not want Joe Biden to run again in 2024, but the Democrats refused to hold debates and kept challengers off the ballot in many states. That did not end well, and no, Americans as a group are not fucking happy with this system. Generally speaking, people who are happy their current systems of government don’t elect fascist conmen who promise to burn the system down.
The fascist conman promised kicking immigrants, banning muslims, protecting pedophiles, triggering libs and tax breaks for the rich, not to burn the system down. Project 2025 was there for all to see. And people just didn’t vote against him.
As long as the have been primaries the leftist candidate has lost. Maybe leftist should start acting instead of whining online?
OMFG dude, Project 2025 is burning the system down. What do you think dismantling the federal bureaucracy, illegally shuttering federal agencies, and removing the independence of the FBI and DOJ is? He promised to take a wrecking ball to the entire system, and low information voters said, “fuck it, my life has only grown worse under this system, might as well.”
I could further explain how the Democratic primary system has been suppressing progressives for the last quarter century, but since you didn’t engage with any of the points I’ve already made on that topic, it would be a waste of my time. I can’t tell if you’re an American who knows shockingly little about their own government or a foreigner who’s arrogant enough to explain another countries political systems to their own citizens, but either way, you’re embarrassing yourself.
What about the 240 years before 2024?
What about them? That question is so vague asking it without further context is meaningless.
If only lemmy kept context.
No one knows what fhe fuck you’re trying to say, dude. I made, like, six different points about the Democrats and the 2024 election and you replied with, “what about the entirety of American history?” What about it? WTF is your point?
Democrats put candidates in primaries and people votes for them, that’s my point. Just because you don’t like doesn’t mean Americans as a group don’t. Even if they disagree on a single issue.
Oh, OK, so then this is also something you’re wrong about, because that’s not how the process has worked for 240 years. The Democratic party itself has existed for less than 200 years, it’s modern form as a (ostensibly) left-leaninf, pro-labor party has existed for less than 100 years, and the modern primary process, where the voters actually select a candidate, has only existed since 1972. Before that, party delegates would just pick a candidate in a backroom meeting and voters would be stuck with it. People were incredibly unhappy with that system, which is why it was reformed in 1072 with binding primaries. The Democrats tried to limit voter influence in the 80s by adding Superdelegates, but after the outsized roll they played the disastrous 2016 election, they were reformed in 2018. Some of those reforms were rolled back in 2024 so they could anoint Harris.
Also, a large majority of Democratic voters did not want Joe Biden to run again in 2024, but the Democrats refused to hold debates and kept challengers off the ballot in many states. That did not end well, and no, Americans as a group are not fucking happy with this system. Generally speaking, people who are happy their current systems of government don’t elect fascist conmen who promise to burn the system down.
The fascist conman promised kicking immigrants, banning muslims, protecting pedophiles, triggering libs and tax breaks for the rich, not to burn the system down. Project 2025 was there for all to see. And people just didn’t vote against him.
As long as the have been primaries the leftist candidate has lost. Maybe leftist should start acting instead of whining online?
OMFG dude, Project 2025 is burning the system down. What do you think dismantling the federal bureaucracy, illegally shuttering federal agencies, and removing the independence of the FBI and DOJ is? He promised to take a wrecking ball to the entire system, and low information voters said, “fuck it, my life has only grown worse under this system, might as well.”
I could further explain how the Democratic primary system has been suppressing progressives for the last quarter century, but since you didn’t engage with any of the points I’ve already made on that topic, it would be a waste of my time. I can’t tell if you’re an American who knows shockingly little about their own government or a foreigner who’s arrogant enough to explain another countries political systems to their own citizens, but either way, you’re embarrassing yourself.
That’s just taking the system further, not burning it down. More power for billionaires, less for you.
most americans dont vote
chronically, year after year, decade after decade
That in itself is a choice.