So, my last post was a complete shit show. I had no idea it would get this much attention. Not necessarily happy that it did.
First off, to the moderation team, please accept this hug from this trans bunny girl right here. Because damn it, do you deserve it. I’m so sorry for what happened, I do kind of feel responsible and I’m worried that by posting this, I’m going to make things worse.
Second, it is astounding the amount of entitlement that so many men feel. In this thread, I’ve seen lots of dudes being offended but what was more striking was: A bunch of guys being told about the rule, AND DOUBLING AND SOMETIMES TRIPLING DOWN!
When I wrote this post, I was thinking of adding a huge: “Please read the rules before commenting, this is a women only space” and I didn’t do it, I didn’t want to overstep the boundaries of the moderation. I would change that, looking back.
You know what kills me about all of this? It’s that, as a transfeminine bun, the typical trans-misogynistic shit being thrown my way is that I’m just a guy disguising myself as a woman to invade “real women” spaces, to which of course, the answer always is: Guys don’t need to put in this much effort to invade women spaces, they just walk in like they own the place and it’s enough.
This post was yet another perfect demonstration of that. And men can’t understand, they just can’t, because they don’t go through it, they don’t know what it’s like, they never even have to think about it. Women are being excluded passively all over the internet, but the second there is a women only thing, we have guys constantly trying to brigade it and to destroy it because taking all the space already isn’t enough.
A woman can’t express herself online without being bombarded with reply guys telling her that she’s wrong, that she’s exaggerating, and don’t forget the usual dudes insisting that they’re part of the good ones. And god forbid if you’re expressing your frustration in a way that might be a bit too generalizing or angry, because of course “#NotAllMen”, a guy will say proving exactly that yes, it is all men. It’s not hating an entire group, it’s not being misandrist, it’s just drowning in misogyny and being rightfully pissed off about it, but we can’t even have that.
We’re never allowed to be ourselves, we’re never allowed to be vulnerable as women, we’re never allowed to vent or be upset at the shit that we have to endure from men all the time, we just have to take it. All because the average dude’s ego is both so enormous and so fragile that he can’t accept that it’s not about him, or even begin to understand that he might be the problem here when he’s been repeatedly told that this is not a space for him.
It’s incredibly disheartening. Because when it works, I love this community, it’s a safe haven on the internet. But the second we dare to talk about more than: “I love being a girl!” and go into something along the lines of: “Misogyny is crushing to deal with”, things spiral out of control and we have to deal with yet another stunning example of men barging in, seemingly desperate to prove the point.
In the beginning I said this:
I’m worried that by posting this, I’m going to make things worse.
You see this? This is exactly what I’m talking about.
I didn’t write it to prove a point, I wrote it because I’m genuinely worried about this. Because I have to actively be careful about what I do, what I say, what I wear, what I show, as to not attract the ire of misogyny. All the time. It’s always in the back of my mind, it’s a never ending anxiety. It’s something that men, even the most well meaning ones, can’t and will never be able to understand. I just wish they’d be able to accept it and to believe us.
EDIT:
IT HAPPENED HERE AS WELL! We had a guy come in, knowing full well he was breaking the rule, but he wanted to share his “personal experience”, his opinion. In other words, fucking mansplain to us why this keeps happening. He couldn’t help himself, he just had to share his unsolicited opinion because he is just that important as a man. I have people asking me all the time why I only hang out with trans people and women, and it’s simple: They respect my fucking boundaries!


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You know where men can talk about this?
In any other community than the one we have built for women and anyone else who is not a man.
I appreciate there are difficulties with navigating the world as a man. I have many wonderful men and boys in my life that I care deeply about and would defend to the ends of this earth. But this isn’t the space to talk about them.
I have to admit it’s low-key enraging to see you comment about the traumatic nature of growing up male in society as a defensive argument here. I had to take a minute to temper myself before replying here. And I don’t want to hear your response unless it’s in a DM or you start this topic in a different community that’s more appropriate.
I am tired of having to set aside my time here to hand hold men who can’t read rules. I don’t want to coddle men who wander in here looking for support just because we’re women and that’s what we’re supposed to do - take care of men
It leaves a bad taste in my mouth even though I’m incredibly empathetic to the male struggle.
Time and place.
You’re way too aggressive to hold any meaningful conversion and I’m literally on your side lmao. I advise you to go touch some grass ngl
You couldn’t even send a DM or choose to not respond, could you?
Had to get one last manly fucking word in. Just couldn’t fucking help yourself. You’re not on our side at all. You don’t care what we want here.
I wasn’t aggressive at all.
enjoy the block list. Crazy.
YOU: I’m a feminist
A WOMAN: This is a woman’s space, please go away
YOU: [MISOGYNISTIC SCREECHING]
Every fucking time.
Fuck OFF
Hi Dr Moose, unfortunately you continued to comment despite being warned, and made derogatory remarks to members. Due to this you’re banned. Have a lovely day ❤️
So called allies the moment you give them some push back and tell them to stay in their lane. Thank you for yet another fucking reminder of why Rule 1 exists and of why it is simply not possible for us to allow men to talk in our spaces, the same way we can’t let cis people talk in trans spaces. Because literally, this always happens. Always. You come in, take all the space and suck all the air out of the room.
My reply to him was so tame, too. It really makes them look incredibly reactive and sexist to react that way.
Thanks so much for your support! We are women only so please don’t comment again but I’m leaving your comment up as it’s supportive 🥰
sorry didn’t know, just saw the post on the front-page. Godspeed!
I was giving you the benefit of doubt, but goddamn. THE FIRST RULE IS EMBEDDED AS AN IMAGE IN THE POST.
Now I know for a fact you ignored it so you could shove your manly opinion down our unwilling throats.
Thanks for that.
Bro, that’s what the post is all about and I even put the image, what the fuck more can I do! 😭😭😭
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You just called me aggressive and crazy. Get the fuck out of here.