• Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml
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    “The U.S. has imposed bans and restrictions on Huawei since 2019, citing cybersecurity concerns and allegations of intellectual property theft.” How’s that working out? In just 7 years, Huawei went from a “doomed company” to this headline.

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    Seeing this post right next to this one makes me think there are two worlds happening for technology and AI.

    When the dust has settled on the AI bubble bursting, the status of Anthropic, OpenAI and Google being the SOTA producers of AI will be a fable. Meanwhile Xiaomi, Tencent and Alibaba will survive because their existence and funding doesn’t rely on the false sense of demand being caused by the bubble. In fact they’re decisively omitted from the limelight because they’re not part of the bubble pumping ecosystem. They fund the research of their AIs with the revenues from their established industries, like they do with all future tech research.

    That bubble pop will be the final nail in the coffin for US hegemony.

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        To be fair to the US they need the AI to

        1. Fix the fundamental contradictions of capitalism
        2. Do orwellian mass surveillance
        3. Defeat all their geopolitical enemies
        4. Overcome the laws of physics and get rid of climate change and the limits to growth
        5. Produce absolute gigatonnes of pornography and misinformation

        It’s a lot of responsibilities. So you need to give the AI the food it needs.

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          1. AI is only going to intensity the contradictions of capitalism as how is a prole supposed to purchase the goods horded by capital if they have no capital?

          2. Tbh they’ll try to do this and will fail inevitably, Russia tried this with the Okhrana and even at that organisations height it did little to stop the growth of socialism in the Russian empire, similarly it’s not going to stop the growth of socialism in the west, conversely systematic surpression of socialist groups could actually legitimise them as a real oppositional force in the eyes of the western Proletariat.

          3. Lol, talking about a pipedream lol, America can’t even defeat Iran what fucking chance are they going to have against china?

          4. Lol, I know these are shit posts but still, funny.

          5. And that’s clearly going to work on a population that is literally starving to death, the Russian orthodox church tried the same thing in 1917, and all It led to was there pedodunge…I mean churches to get burnt down.

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            I was being sarcastic with all those points. You’re right that AI can’t do any of that. But the American bourgeoise believe it can. It is their delusional hope. Their golden calf.

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                Not gonna claim this is true about any given capitalist, but generally speaking, they do. It’s just their logic is by necessity local/constrained. They make rational decisions based on their situation and goals, which happen to be ghoulish because it’s capitalism.

                The people with agency in our economy are making money hands over fist with AI. They don’t care if it’s real or sustainable, they just want to continue extracting value and do so faster than other capitalists.

                Invested money isn’t lost, it’s transferred. If a trillion dollars is said to have been lost in stupid investments, that just means a specific group of capitalists extracted a trillion dollars, usually indirectly from the public sector.

                Edit: what I mean by local logic is like if they were effectively winning a game of chess while on a train that was speeding towards a cliff (except the millions of games of chess influence the trajectory of the train). Capitalism is rational, but with fundamental contradictions. And I think each bubble or boom and bust cycle proves both the rationality and contradictions more than brings it into question. But like the fundamental material rationality, not the mythology and liberal ideology to be clear.

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                It’s macroeconomics. Wealthy Americans got all the cash in the world right now. It needs to go somewhere, and boy oh boy is AI infrastructure good at scaling up and sucking up capital

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        I’d like to see this adjusted for share of GDP and for another industry whose R&D is so dominated by the USA to see if it always looks like this befor coming to any conclusions

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      Eh, crises of overproduction are a periodic facet of capitalism. This AI stuff is just the latest wave, and this crisis will likely precipitate in a popular outburst that will be placated through milquetoast reforms.

      What will really kill the empire is the wars in Asia, especially against China.