The insulting his wife thing is something kinda lost to history. There’s no record of what was actually said. The situation was that Krupskaya, Lenin’s wife, would bring him newspapers against doctor’s orders. Lenin had just had a stroke and his doctors recommended that he shouldn’t read the news because it would stress him out and aggravate his condition. Stalin had heard about Krupskaya doing this and said something to her, possibly very blunt or rude, telling her to stop. This possibly got miscommunicated to Lenin, or maybe he overheard, who knows.
Fact is that Stalin kept visiting and writing to Lenin afterwards so they were probably able to smooth things over.
I really don’t see how anyone thinks this situation is out of the ordinary or crazy in any way. Like, this kind of shit happens all the time with ordinary people. I mean literally what I imagine happening:
Stalin worry about his bud. Hears buds wife is disobeying doctors orders giving him stressful news and shit that could make his already fragile state worse. Tells wife she needs to stop.
Now, weather or not he was being shitty or rude doesn’t matter. You ever tell a friends spouse something they didn’t like? There isn’t a snowballs chance in hell she didn’t go back to Lenin and rip on Stalin. Like, bruh, I don’t have a single friend who’s spouse wouldn’t do that, and I get along with them.
Add into that how much Lenin adored his wife. Like super adored her. No way he didn’t take her side and get defensive. Especially in the state he was in? People that are sickly like that can get pretty aggressive and irrational. So he probably told Stalin to fuck off and apologize. Stalin, even though he was most likely in the right, and probably didn’t even actually get THAT ride or shitty, did the bro thing and apologized. And he straight up did it in the exact way most bros would. “Hey man, I don’t think what I did was wrong, but I’m not gonna kill out friendship over it, so I apologize and won’t do it again.”
And that was that. They made up cause that’s what bros do. Lenin was a smart dude. He’s not gonna hold a grudge over some squabbling bullshit when he’s near the end of his days, and Stalin probably thought the entire situation was stupid and ready to put it behind them.
Stalin had a new, younger boyfriend (Mao Zedong) and this angered Lenin…
Ok but seriously, it was a mix of things. Stalin was a bit too harsh for Lenins liking and also insulted his wife to his face…
they also clashed when it came to social matters. Lenin makes homosexuality legal, Stalin makes it illegal again, albeit after Lenin died.
So its possible these differences showed up in their personal relationship.
With that being said, I dont think they had a full blown ”falling out”
The insulting his wife thing is something kinda lost to history. There’s no record of what was actually said. The situation was that Krupskaya, Lenin’s wife, would bring him newspapers against doctor’s orders. Lenin had just had a stroke and his doctors recommended that he shouldn’t read the news because it would stress him out and aggravate his condition. Stalin had heard about Krupskaya doing this and said something to her, possibly very blunt or rude, telling her to stop. This possibly got miscommunicated to Lenin, or maybe he overheard, who knows.
Fact is that Stalin kept visiting and writing to Lenin afterwards so they were probably able to smooth things over.
I really don’t see how anyone thinks this situation is out of the ordinary or crazy in any way. Like, this kind of shit happens all the time with ordinary people. I mean literally what I imagine happening:
Stalin worry about his bud. Hears buds wife is disobeying doctors orders giving him stressful news and shit that could make his already fragile state worse. Tells wife she needs to stop.
Now, weather or not he was being shitty or rude doesn’t matter. You ever tell a friends spouse something they didn’t like? There isn’t a snowballs chance in hell she didn’t go back to Lenin and rip on Stalin. Like, bruh, I don’t have a single friend who’s spouse wouldn’t do that, and I get along with them.
Add into that how much Lenin adored his wife. Like super adored her. No way he didn’t take her side and get defensive. Especially in the state he was in? People that are sickly like that can get pretty aggressive and irrational. So he probably told Stalin to fuck off and apologize. Stalin, even though he was most likely in the right, and probably didn’t even actually get THAT ride or shitty, did the bro thing and apologized. And he straight up did it in the exact way most bros would. “Hey man, I don’t think what I did was wrong, but I’m not gonna kill out friendship over it, so I apologize and won’t do it again.”
And that was that. They made up cause that’s what bros do. Lenin was a smart dude. He’s not gonna hold a grudge over some squabbling bullshit when he’s near the end of his days, and Stalin probably thought the entire situation was stupid and ready to put it behind them.