• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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      If they’ve got an older type of electric stove, they don’t produce an even heat, the element clicks on and off constantly. Even cheaper inductive cookers do this, and it can make things difficult for cooking.

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            Technically they’re correct, they’re referring to an induction stovetop. Induction stovetops are sort of like magic. That being said, old non-induction electric stovetops are cheeks.

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              I’ve used induction cooktops that are duty cycle based, they just do it a lot faster, fast enough that the interruption in heat isn’t noticeable.

              You can hear them cycling on and off.

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              This document is an electrical schematic for an air switch on an oven.

              We’re talking about the stove, or range. That’s the flat bit on top where you put pots and pans, an oven is the box you put food in that gets hot.

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          Youre also assuming that you cook every dish at the same temperature the whole time. Gas changes immediately, and if you turn it off, its off. Electric takes longer to change temp and continues to heat and cook after the elements are off.

          I find your elitist attitude amusing. Have you ever worked in a kitchen with a real chef?

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            I can not agree more. While I will admit my electric range knowledge is limited while my gas range knowledge is pretty high. I bought a house with an electric stove I put some oil in my pan turned the eye on and let it warm while I was cutting veggies or something else it had not been more then maybe 2 minutes and the oil burned to the pan. On gas i have never had that issue. It seems no matter what I do on electric I always burn. I admit it may be my lack of knowledge.

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              You’re really trying to say gas isn’t preferred in professional kitchens?

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              Elitist and I’m arguing against the flamboyant and expensive option that only exists to enrich the wealthy?

              My gas stove was cheaper than an induction cooktop to buy, runs off bottled LPG, and uses a bottle about twice a year. I probably spend a hundred dollars a year running it.

              Also, every high end kitchen uses gas. Are you suggesting they don’t know what they’re doing?

              Everything you’ve said so far has been absolutely wrong, and frankly you’re just embarrassing yourself.

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                The user you’re talking to is way too unaccepting of counterarguments but I do find it funny how in one comment you’re talking about elitism and then in another you say all the high end restaurants use gas

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      I am not convinced an electric stovetop is any more efficient at transferring heat to the pan than gas is, unless you are using induction which the majority of electric hobs will not be.

      Edit: I have been convinced now, see below

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        I encourage you to find some thermal camera videos, and get some specs to do a bit of math for your own situation. Gas stoves typically create a BUNCH more heat, going up and around the sides of the pan/pot, while electric (of all types) is much more focused on the bottom surface. It’s also why electric is so bad for cooking in a wok.

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        Electric heating is 100% efficient in general, as in 100% of the energy used is converted to thermal energy. No other heating method can claim this period (except geothermal and other heat pumps which can be several thousand percent effective but are impractical for spot heating.)

        So the real difference is induction versus resistive coil efficiency at transferring that energy to the food…

        Luckily a ridiculous amount of research has been done to show:

        Gas is about 40% efficient

        Electric coil is about 74% efficient.

        Induction is 80-90% efficient.

        So not only are you using more efficient methods of creating heat than combustion, you are getting more heat transferred to your food per unit of energy used. By double.

        Gas stoves are great for two things, and only two things:

        Jet-Gas stoves for Woks.

        And Charring vegetables when you’re too lazy to start a grill.

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          Electric heating is 100% efficient in general, as in 100% of the energy used is converted to thermal energy.

          Yeah, I was careful to specify transferring heat to the pan.

          Luckily a ridiculous amount of research has been done to show:

          Ok I am convinced now 😆. I’m easy to convince if you have data. I am surprised though, I have used all three and induction is by far the quickest to heat. I can boil a giant pot of water in a few minutes, so I am a bit surprised that the difference between electric and induction is not that big.

          I guess gas is fast to heat because it stores a ridiculous amount of energy so it can waste plenty and still be quick.

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            Electric is the max temp of you power system so for 120v it’s like 500°c and gas burns at like 1300°C you just need a lot more power in gas than in electricity

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              Damn, I have a 240v induction stove, can I melt metal? 😆

              I tried searching this question but apparently there are safety features to prevent me doing cool stuff.

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                I mean tin can be melted over a candle if it’s made from beeswachs

                But yeah 240 volts is absolutely enough to melt iron and copper that’s one reason why you have a breaker with an amperage corresponding to the wire in your wall

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              Why did you delete your other comments, not brave enough to let your mistake stand for the amusement of others?

              I note you still gave me one last downvote before trying to hide your shame though.