Americans are bombing the shit out of civilian infrastructure in Iran, based on not liking the actions of an unelected oppressive authoritarian regime. Americans and Israeli’s at the moment are pretty much indiscriminate when it comes to who they’re killing.
And online, you and many other American supporters whine saying “Not all of us are like that!”. No one fucking cares that a minority of your country are sending thoughts and prayers, while your country is bombing civilians and openly, flagrantly, committing war crimes – LAUGHING about committing those war crimes at your state of the union even. “haha, we destroyed Venezuela’s fishing industry by illegally murdering a bunch of innocent fishermen! LOL!”. Many of us care even less about how the people complicit in CARRYING OUT those war crimes are being treated by the US government.
“We went to Iran to kill civilians, and they’re not feeding us well!”. Boo fucking hoo.
And online, you and many other American supporters whine saying “Not all of us are like that!”.
I am American, I am not an ‘American Supporter’.
I agree the ‘not all of us are like that’ argument is bad.
Im fact I hate that the country is doing what it is doing and has been for so long. It sucks, its embarrassing.
What I am I really saying is that responsibility for the acts of violence, is often attributed to the ‘wrong’ people. And so I was seeking some clarification.
I would agree with a Dutchman or an Iranian saying ‘America and all of its citizens are responsible for the violence, and it is bad’. I can accept this is a fairly true snd congruent statement.
I would not agree with an American saying that an unspecified group of people (individuals)onboard a ship are responsible for the violence whilst they share no responsibility in it, are morally superior and clean.
‘CARRYING OUT’ also would require some explaining.
If were to host Nuremberg 2.0 for America. ‘CARRYING OUT’ could mean lots of things.
The fact is that the causality of our acts of violence are distributed—and if we begin to assign levels of complictness to individuals and groups we ought to do so carefully. Voting, for example, is not the only way one can be complicit (or increase their complictness). Agency is a real factor.
Americans are bombing the shit out of civilian infrastructure in Iran, based on not liking the actions of an unelected oppressive authoritarian regime. Americans and Israeli’s at the moment are pretty much indiscriminate when it comes to who they’re killing.
And online, you and many other American supporters whine saying “Not all of us are like that!”. No one fucking cares that a minority of your country are sending thoughts and prayers, while your country is bombing civilians and openly, flagrantly, committing war crimes – LAUGHING about committing those war crimes at your state of the union even. “haha, we destroyed Venezuela’s fishing industry by illegally murdering a bunch of innocent fishermen! LOL!”. Many of us care even less about how the people complicit in CARRYING OUT those war crimes are being treated by the US government.
“We went to Iran to kill civilians, and they’re not feeding us well!”. Boo fucking hoo.
And online, you and many other American supporters whine saying “Not all of us are like that!”.
I am American, I am not an ‘American Supporter’.
I agree the ‘not all of us are like that’ argument is bad.
Im fact I hate that the country is doing what it is doing and has been for so long. It sucks, its embarrassing.
What I am I really saying is that responsibility for the acts of violence, is often attributed to the ‘wrong’ people. And so I was seeking some clarification.
I would agree with a Dutchman or an Iranian saying ‘America and all of its citizens are responsible for the violence, and it is bad’. I can accept this is a fairly true snd congruent statement.
I would not agree with an American saying that an unspecified group of people (individuals)onboard a ship are responsible for the violence whilst they share no responsibility in it, are morally superior and clean.
‘CARRYING OUT’ also would require some explaining.
If were to host Nuremberg 2.0 for America. ‘CARRYING OUT’ could mean lots of things.
The fact is that the causality of our acts of violence are distributed—and if we begin to assign levels of complictness to individuals and groups we ought to do so carefully. Voting, for example, is not the only way one can be complicit (or increase their complictness). Agency is a real factor.
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