• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    YOU have two years to pick a candidate why are you letting the liberal establishment pick for you?? You guys never turn up till the federal elections and wonder why they don’t care about your input

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      The fuck I don’t. I toed the line, still lost, still get blamed when the diversity hire can’t beat Donald fucking Trump. Getting clapped by a shit stain should probably prompt a deeper introspection

      • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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        With that much muscke behind you?

        Nah. If i were harris i wouldve fucking killed myself; only way out of the shame.

        Unless it was trying to lose. It is a pig, and they do tend to like trump quite a lot.

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        The diversity hire did about 10% better than the old white guy.

        Trump won because Americans are that dumb, it’s not the fault of the black lady.

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          11 hours ago

          Trump won because democrats preferred listening to republicans who were never going to vote for them over democrats who might have voted for them.

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            And I hope those democrats are enjoying what they didn’t vote for. I’m sure Kamala or Biden or whoever would have been worse than pedophile protector in chief.

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          Trump won because Americans are that dumb

          This is poor analysis. This doesn’t explain why people become “dumb” or receptive to fascism. It has no notion of the material causes of fascism - lack of education, crumbling infrastructure, economic austerity, withheld wages, unaffordable healthcare, etc… Its a tautology that says things are bad because people are dumb and people are dumb becsuse things are bad.

          If you truly latch on to this analysis, your only recourse is fact checking, appeals to reasons, and appeals to media literacy. How have those pushes been over thr last 10 years?

          Fascism is capitalist crisis; it is not some nebulous “dumbing down” of an entire population through clandestine or otherwise paranormal means. Marxism teaches us to understand these issues from a “class” perspective as opposed to a “population” perspective.

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            I didn’t say people are dumb on purpose. They are dumb. Sure, there’s a thousand reasons for it, I’m just stating the current status.

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              Trump won because Americans are that dumb

              I’m just stating the current status.

              That is definitively not what you’re doing. You’re providing a (bad) explanation.

    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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      because it’s not a democracy. oligarchs are the ones doing the choosing.

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          Interested in liberal takes on this video with a pre-MSNBC Lawrence O’Donnell. He says to be willing to withhold your vote in order to push the party left. The exact opposite of the shit libs say today.

          I trust the people who used to work for the Democratic Party to know how they think. If they’re going to tell me to shut the fuck up because I have nowhere else to go, why would they listen to me at any point of the bullshit dog and pony shows we put on?

          https://youtu.be/FqRNnIMDkUY

          • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            Look, if youre not willing to vote in such a way that tge tax money extraxted from you at threat of violence is used to literally murder people you personally love, youre just a fascist. I dont get how this is hard to understand.

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              My history shows that I “vote blue.” Not sure what you’re talking about. The only question is if it ultimately helps or hurts.

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          Yes. Plenty of states didn’t even hold primaries. You think it was just a nice coincidence they didn’t pull Biden until after the primary anointed Copmala?