• DaMummy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Actually, the leader of Blood Tribe, one of the main neo nazi groups in the USA supports Ukraine, and it’s simply because the nazis in Ukraine, and he likes that the USA is sending billions to nazis in Ukraine, and he’s on record stating as such, and ending speeches with a “SLAVA UKRAINE”

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      Too bad it appears the majority of Nazis tend to actually disagree with him and support Russia.

      Just look at Trump’s administration

      Look at Nick Fuentes

      There are Nazi elements in Ukraine like there are in a lot of former Soviet block countries, but its far from the majority, and far from the direction their gov leans.

      Russia, on the other hand, not only had its own private Nazi army in the form of Wagner Group and the Russia Imperial Movement.

      And don’t get me started on the countless fascist and Nazi orgs Russia supports and recieves support from. Ukraine doesn’t have such a rep.

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        Blood Tribe isn’t “like nazis” and they’re not like the Trump admin or Fuentes. They are literally neo Nazis. Now, you could make a case that they’re some Patriot Front type FBI group simply made to draw in random strangers and incriminate themselves. Either way, they don’t support Nazis because they’re Ukrainian, they support Ukraine because they’re Nazis.

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          What is that word salad you vomited onto this page.

          Understand that

          1. Blood Tribe is a Nazi gang, not a major Nazi faction.
          2. Actual major Nazi factions with millions of followers (MAGA, AFD, France’s National Rally Party, etc) all support Russia

          You’re disregarding the overwhelming evidence to your contrary, in favor of the views of a single, small, Nazi gang.

          We haven’t even touched on Putin’s massive campaign of international support for fascists, or the Wagner Group or Russian Imperial Movement

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          Do you think that Ukraine should fall to Russia? It’s hard to understand your framing otherwise, even if you are right about Nazis.

          Why the fuck can Russia just invade countries and take over territory?

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            No, I just think we shouldn’t send billions of dollars of weapons to Nazis. Ukrainians don’t need to die to raise the stock prices of our MIC, nazis or not.

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          A few neo-nazis in Germany also support Ukraine, mostly for the fact that they are killing Russians though. Most of the neo-nazis and almost all other far-right chills support Russia though.

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      You are technically correct thus invalidating this meme 100%.

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        https://x.com/michaeljknowles/status/1759042756536656020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1759042756536656020%7Ctwgr%5E7bd53938321da3a4ef614e795e2a23fdb6cd75c3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.themainewire.com%2F2024%2F02%2Fpro-biden-neo-nazi-who-fled-maine-after-receiving-criticism-makes-an-unimpressive-showing-in-tennessee%2F don’t come after me for that link. Yes I know, fuck musk, fuck Knowles, and fuck nazis. It’s just that the video has been scrubbed from so many places, but you’re welcome to search about it, should still find text format in some reputable sources.

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            OK, but does your argument also include sending that group $150 billion worth of weapons?

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              What does that have to do with whether Russia or Ukraine is nazis? Weapons aid or no weapons aid shouldn’t change whether someone is a nazi.

              The debate here was about whether or not Ukraine are nazis, and your only proof seems to be that a US Neo-nazi supports them… Which is a rather flimsy argument…

              I don’t think Ukraine is nazis. Their president is Jewish, and they haven’t been invading any of their neighbors…

              Russia on the other hand is certainly behaving much like Nazi Germany did in World War 2, so I’m fine with sending Ukraine as much aid as possible.

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                So your argument is that there are no racist in America because Obama is black? And Ukrainian far right nationalist killed 14k Russian speaking Ukrainians shortly before the Russian invasion in '22, and after they had two peace agreements called the Minks Accords.

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            That’s pretty neat. Thanks. Like an invidious for Twitter. Though I know I’m gonna forget as I don’t use twitter/x links often enough to remember.

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          You are way out of your depth if you’re going to school anyone on who are Nazis, and you’re going to use Nazi propaganda on a Nazi propaganda hosting platform to do it.

          Just because you said “yeah I know fuck Nazis”, doesn’t mean that you aren’t doing exactly what has just been outlined above.

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            I’m not sure what the point is you’re trying to make here. That the openly neo nazi with a swastika necklace praising nazis isn’t a nazi?

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            I’m not sure what that means, but yes? X was Twitter. That’s the link I gave you.